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The auto-finalise clock

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Auto-finalise is the market deciding an order is done because nobody said otherwise. It is not a punishment and it is not aimed at you. It exists so orders do not sit open forever while two people ignore each other.

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Printed as supplied, in no order. Nothing here is watched or timed, so an address that loads is not proof of anything. More about the set

1.A rule that acts when nobody does

The clock is the plainest example on this site of a window that belongs to somebody else. It opens when the order reaches a certain state, it runs, and then it applies an outcome. Attention is not an input to it.

What shuts this window is a rule and not a mood. That sounds obvious written down, and it is the exact thing people forget while they are waiting for a reply.

Window opens
When the order enters the state the clock applies to.
Window closes
When the clock reaches the market limit and the rule applies.
What shuts it
The rule itself, or you acting first.
Still possible after
A clear record for yourself, and a better habit on the next order.

2.Whose clock it is

Not yours. The length is set by the market and it differs between orders and between vendors. Anyone quoting you a firm number for every order is repeating something they read somewhere.

The figure that governs your order is on your order. It is the only one worth arranging your week around, and this site will not offer you a different one, because a wrong number here is worse than no number at all.

3.What counts as an action

CountsDoes not count
Finalising the order yourselfReading the message thread again
Opening a dispute where the market allows itDrafting a message you have not sent
Any step the order page offers as a buttonA vendor promising to sort it out

The pattern is simple. If it changed the state of the order, it counted. If it only changed what you or the vendor know, it did not. The cost of getting that wrong in the other direction is on a dispute filed before it could be won, and every action and the window it has applies the same test everywhere else.

Read this twiceA conversation does not pause the rule. Vendors are not necessarily lying when they say they will fix it, and the clock still does not stop. Both of those are true at the same time, and only one of them has a deadline.
Read nextAn order nobody is watchingWhat the clock does when there is nobody at your end of the order.

4.When it fires

The order closes in the state the rule leaves it, and the moves that lived inside the window go with it. An order you finalised covers what that state means when you chose it deliberately. This is the same ending reached by nobody choosing anything, which is why it stings differently.

5.Spending the window well

  • Read the order page early rather than at the end. Whatever the limit is, you want to know it while there is room to move.
  • Ask direct questions with dates in them. Vague reassurance is easy to give and impossible to use later.
  • Decide in advance what state would make you act, then act at that state instead of at your mood.
  • If nothing has moved and the limit is close, take the decision rather than letting it be taken. The six things that close a window are all of this shape.
Nobody pressed anything. The rule did.

The clock is not interested in whether the vendor was helpful, whether the messages were friendly, or whether you were away. It reads one thing, which is the state of the order, and it acts on that alone.

Also on this branchA vendor who has gone quietThe situation where people most often confuse waiting with acting.

Questions people send in

Does talking to the vendor extend it?

No. Messages change what you know. They do not change the state the rule is reading.

Where do I find the limit for my order?

On the order itself. It differs between orders and vendors, which is exactly why no site should be quoting you a figure.

Is auto-finalise the same as finalising?

From the market side the outcome looks similar. The difference is that one of them was a decision, and yours is the one worth keeping.